EM’s Last Conversation with Claudio Naranjo

Recorded on 3/18/2014 at the Saratoga Spring Retreat center. Mendocino County, CA.
Jack Labanauskas: It’s been too many years that we haven’t had you in the Enneagram Monthly and a lot of changes happened since and some things have remained the same. One of them is, a dream to come up with a definition of type, a center feature as it were, a core around which the secondary features gather, something to make distinctions between types more stable or irrefutable.
Claudio Naranjo: I don’t know that...
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