Jack Labanauskas:  Tell me something about how you have worked with the centers.

Robert Frager: In my life, I’ve had three major passions. To simplify things, one has been intellectual, one has been body, and one has been heart. I started the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology (ITP) with the notion of developing an educational system that worked with all three centers. At first I translated this as training in body, mind and spirit. Now, over 25 years later, we have developed the cur...

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